Moving & living expenses survey

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This website contains the results of the 2022 “Moving and living expenses survey” of the Stanford Latinx Postdoc Association. The results are presented rigorously and systematically, and as openly and transparently as possible for all the community to see. We include a summary of major findings, as well as sections on moving costs, housing, transportation, food, dependents and partners, financials, and qualitative results from open questions.

We invite you to read the report and share it with the Stanford community at large, including postdocs, faculty, students, staff, administrators, and alumni as well as with the broader academic community.

Based on the results of the survey, the Stanford Latinx Postdoc Association is releasing an open letter where we ask that postdocs are no longer required to sacrifice their well-being in order to be able to be part of the Stanford community*, and we include a specific proposal to help our community overcome one of the key barriers we encounter. We invite you to read and sign that letter.

– October 2022 – Stanford Latinx Postdoc Association

Summary of major findings

Acknowledgements

  • We thank the 212 anonymous Stanford postdocs who took the survey, in particular we are grateful for the 55 anonymous Latinx postdocs who responded.

  • The survey questionnaire was designed by Julieta Álvarez Manjarrez with input from the SLPA board members Clare Abreu, Sur Herrera Paredes, Renato S. Navarro, Fátima Pardo Ávila, Maria-Belen Perez-Ramirez, and Vanessa Sanchez.

  • We also thank the SURPAS leadership team, and the SURPAS director of communications Geetha Saarunya Clarke for their help in disseminating the survey.

  • This survey report and analysis was prepared by Clare Abreu, Sur Herrera Paredes, and Fátima Pardo Ávila, with input from Stepfanie Aguillon and Julieta Álvarez Manjarrez.

Survey demographics

The largest ever survey of the Stanford Latinx postdocs

  • A total of 212 Stanford postdocs answered the survey, with 55/212 (25.9%) self-identifying as “Latinx”.

  • The 2021 IDEAL Survey, which is the largest survey of the overall Stanford postdoc population, reported that 47 /837 (5.6%) of postdoc respondents self-identified with the related label “Hispanic/Latino”.

  • In the more recent SURPAS benefits survey (December 2021 to January 2022) 316 postdoc respondents but no ethnic/racial demographics were reported.

  • To the best of our knowledge, this is the largest survey ever reported where the responses of the Latinx postdocs can be studied as a group. If the proportion of Hispanic/Latino postdocs from the IDEAL survey is accurate, then this survey sampled 41% of the Latinx postdoc population.

Most Stanford postdocs started within the last 3 years

  • The majority of the survey respondents (79.6%) started their postdoc in the last three calendar years (i.e. since 2020).

  • The number above is almost identical to the 78.1% postdocs in the first 3 years of their appointment from the latest SURPAS survey (SURPAS 2021/22 benefits survey).

  • We observe a lower than expected number of postdocs who started in the year 2020, likely related to the COVID-19 pandemic.

  • There is little difference between Latinx and non-Latinx postdocs on this characteristic.

Moving costs

The median postdoc spends $3,000-$4,000 USD in their first month for moving expenses

  • The median postdoc spends $3001-$4000 in their first month rent and deposit when moving to Stanford. The median is the same for Latinx and non-Latinx postdocs, but Latinx postdocs are more likely to be in the top two spending brackets.

  • For moving expenses other than housing the median Latinx postdoc spends $2501-$3000, versus the median non-Latinx postdoc who spends $2001-$2500. However, Latinx postdocs are also more likely to spend less than $1,500 in this categeory.

Latinx postdocs disproportionatelly move from Latin America or California, USA

  • At least one Latinx postdoc was living in each of the regions surveyed prior to moving to Stanford.

  • In contrast no non-Latinx postdoc moved from Latin America.

Rent + utilities increase when postdocs move to Stanford

  • The median cost of rent + utilities for Latinx postdocs incresases from $1001-$2000 before Stanford, to $2500-$3000 at Stanford. This represents at least a 25% increase.

  • The median cost of rent + utilities for non-Latinx postdocs incresases from $501-$1000 before Stanford, to $2001-$2500 at Stanford. This represents at least a 100% increase.

  • Overall, when moving to Stanford, the cost of rent + utilities decreased for 1/212 postdoc (0.5%); it remained in overlapping ranges for 36/212 postdocs (17%, with 19/36 of these in the top ranges), and it increased for 175/212 postdocs (82.5%).

  • Note: the surveyed ranges for the rent + utilities cost differ between the Before Stanford and At Stanford periods. The widths of the bars in the figure reflect the ranges surveyed. The top ranges surveyed were the open intervals “more than $2,000” and “more than $3,000” respectively.

Prior to Stanford, Latinx postdocs were more likely to have salaries in the most extreme brackets

  • The median postdoc had a monthly salary of $1701-$2500 prior to Stanford regardless of whether they identify as Latinx.

  • 18.2% of Latinx postdocs had a monthly salary of $1,000 USD or less prior to Stanford, compared to 5.7% of non-Latinx postdocs.

  • 27.3% of Latinx postdocs had a monthly salary of more than $3,000 USD prior to Stanford, compared to 17.8% of non-Latinx postdocs.

Latinx postdocs are more likely to request financial help to move to Stanford

  • 29.8% of Latinx postdocs requested financial help to move to Stanford, versus 15.1% of non-Latinx postdocs.

  • 60.6% of those who requested financial help did so from “Family & Friends”.

Postdocs moving from outside of the USA are more likely to request a loan to move

  • 11.3% of postdocs moving to Stanford from any USA state requested financial help to move.

  • 21.6% of postdocs moving to Stanford from outside of the USA states requested financial help to move.

  • 40% of postdocs moving to Stanford from Latin America requested financial help to move.

Postdocs moving from Latin America pay less in housing in their first month

  • 60% of postdocs who move from Latin America spend $3,000 or less in their first month of rent, deposit and other moving expenses.

  • 50% of postdocs who move from Asia spend $3,000 or less in their first month of rent, deposit and other moving expenses

  • 37.1% of postdocs who move from places other than Latin America or Asia spend $3,000 or less in their first month of rent, deposit and other moving expenses.

Most postdocs would request moving financial aid from Stanford if available

  • If available, 80.2% of postdocs would have requested financial help to move to the Bay Area.

Housing

More postdocs, in particular Latinx postdocs, are paying high rents compared with January 2022

  • 78.2% of Latinx postdocs pay more than $2,000 USD monthly for rent and utilities. This is compared to 66.2% of non-Latinx postdocs in the same bracket.

  • In January 2022, 47.3% of all postdocs payed more than $2,000 of rent per month (SURPAS 2021/22 benefits survey).

Latinx postdocs are more likely to live far from campus

  • Latinx postdocs are less likely to live in the nearby Palo Alto-Menlo Park area: 41.8% for Latinx postdocs vs 58.3 % for non-Latinx postdocs.

  • Latinx postdocs are more likely to live on the extremes of the Caltrain line (i.e. San Francisco or San Jose): 20% for Latinx postdocs vs 6.4 % for non-Latinx postdocs.

  • 6.2% of postdocs live on campus. This is similar to the 5.6% of postdocs who lived in Stanford-owned housing in January 2022 (SURPAS 2021/22 benefits survey)

Cost of rent + utilities distribute similarly across the Bay Area

  • Except for San Jose, we observed postdocs in all the expenses brackets in all regions surveyed.

Transportation

Most postdocs own a car

  • 71.7% of postdocs own a car, regardless of whether they self-identify as Latinx.

Owning a car increases transportation expenses, more so for Latinx postdocs

  • The median postdoc without a car spends $101-$200 per month on transportation, while the median postdoc with a car spends $201-$300.

  • For postdocs who don’t own a car, there is little difference in transportation expenses between Latinx & non-Latinx postdocs.

  • Among postdocs who own a car, 50% of Latinx postdocs spend more than $300 per month in transport. In contrast, 20.2% of non-Latinx postdocs spend the same amount.

  • Overall, the median Stanford postdoc spends $201-$300 on transportation per month. In contrast, the median postdoc spent $100-$159 per month on January 2022, representing at least a 25% increase (SURPAS 2021/22 benefits survey).

  • Note: the full text of the question was Do you own a car?

Postdocs moving from the USA states are more likely to own a car

  • 79% of postdocs moving to Stanford from any USA state own a car.

  • 50% of postdocs moving to Stanford from outside of the USA states own a car.

  • 66.7% of postdocs moving to Stanford from Latin America own a car.

Food

29.5% of postdocs spend more than $1,200 per month on food

  • The median postdoc spends $101-$300 per week on food regardless on whether they identify as Latinx.

  • 29.5% of postdocs spend more than $300 per week in food, or approximately more than $1,200 per month. In January 2022 only 8.9% of postdocs spent more than $1,100 in the same category, at least a 3-fold increase in this proportion (SURPAS 2021/22 benefits survey).

Dependents & partners

Latinx postdocs are more likely to have partners

  • Latinx postdocs are more likely to have had partner (63.6% vs 56.1% for non-Latinx postdocs) before coming to Stanford.

  • More postdocs have partners now when compared to their time before Stanford. Latinx postdocs are still more likely to have a partner (67.3% vs 59.6% for non-Latinx postdocs).

  • For Latinx postdocs, their partners were more likely to have had a salary before coming to Stanford (82.9%) than now (70.3%).

  • For non-Latinx postdocs, their partners were less likely to have had a salary before coming to Stanford (61.4%) than now (76.3%).

A quarter of Stanford postdocs have dependents

  • 25.5% of Latinx postdocs have dependents.
  • 22.3% of non-Latinx postdocs have dependents.`
  • In january 2022 26% of all postdocs had dependents and/or significant others enrolled in the Stanford Health Care Alliance plan (SURPAS 2021/22 benefits survey).

Financials

Postdocs feel that their salary doesn’t cover their life expenses

  • 63.3% of postdocs do not feel (i.e. responses 1 or 2) that their postdoc salary cover their life expenses.

Financial concerns negatively influence postdocs

  • 70.4% of Latinx postdocs and 63.5% of non-Latinx postdocs feel negatively affected by their financials at Stanford.

  • There is a direct relationship between postdocs feeling that their salary doesn’t cover their expenses, and feeling that their financial situation negatively affects them.

  • Note: the full text of the question was “Do you feel that your financials here at Stanford have affected negatively your wellbeing, progress, comfort, mental health, etc.?”.

One quarter of postdocs are saving money for retirement

  • 25.5% of Latinx postdocs are setting up some money aside for retirement.

  • 27.4% of non-Latinx postdocs are setting up some money aside for retirement.

Moving costs, other than housing, negatively impact postdocs

  • 79.2% of postdocs with moving expenses (other than housing) greater than $2,500 feel negatively affected by their finances at Stanford.

  • 63.1% of postdocs with moving expenses (other than housing) of $2,500 or less, feel negatively affected by their finances at Stanford.

Other factors have little influence on the negative effect of postdoc finances

  • There is no relationship between first month expenses of a postdoc, and the negative impact that they feel from their finances.

  • There is no relationship between the year a Stanford postdoc started their appointment, and the negative impact that they feel from their finances.

  • Owning a car is a associated with a small increase (from 66.2% to 62.3%) in the likelihood that a postdoc feels that their Stanford finances negatively affect them.

Qualitative responses

Healthcare and childcare are other major expenses

  • Respondents were asked Please list any other expenses you have. Include whether they are related to health, childcare, personal business, or anything else, and how much do you spend on them monthly.

  • 98/212 (46.2% response rate) participants responded.

  • 35/98 (35.7%) of responses mentioned healthcare cost for themselves or their dependents. For those who provided a numeric estimate, the median was $245 USD.

  • 17/98 (17.3%) of responses mentioned childcare costs, with a range between $1,200-$4,000 USD per month. The median cost reported was $2,400 USD.

  • The wordclouds above reflect the most common words for Latinx and non-Latinx postdocs.

Open comments highlight financial needs and their consequences

  • At the end of the survey, respondents were asked Please add any comments that you have about your financial situation or other topics that you feel are affecting the financial lives of postdocs.

  • 95/212 (44.8% response rate) participants responded.

  • The most common themes were:

    1. 21/95 (22.1%) of responses stated that being a postdoc at Stanford is possible because of a partner’s income and/or not having children.
    2. 16/95 (16.8%) of responses mentioned not being able to save money for emergencies.
    3. 11/95 (11.6%) of responses mentioned that relocation assistance was needed to move to the Bay Area.
  • Other recurrent themes included the negative mental health effects of financial burdens, having to live apart from immediate family, the need for salary to keep up with cost-of-living increases, and deciding to leave academia for financial reasons.

  • Two respondents described sacrificing needed healthcare treatments.

  • Two respondents mentioned going into debt as a postdoc at Stanford.

  • One respondent described daily dinners of instant noodles.

  • One respondent stated that video games were the only coping mechanism available.

Additional issues

  • Additional issues were identified from open comments by survey respondents

  • The data in this survey shows that some postdocs do not have the resources to move and live in the Bay Area, and successful cases should not be used to dismiss the real needs of other postdocs. One responded quoted an email, that they received from a Stanford administrator, in which their difficulties to move were sarcastically dismissed.

  • Visiting scholars are not considered postdocs by Stanford and they have access to even fewer benefits when they do the same job and are in the same career stage as formally recognized postdocs.

  • In the current Stanford healthcare plan, in order for disabled partners to qualify, they may risk losing benefits.

Quotes

Based on the salaries of postdocs, I do not feel valued here at Stanford, and at times struggle with resentment and regret for pursuing my postdoc training here, given the financial debt I am forced to take on in order to learn here. Unfortunately, I doubt there will be significant change during AY22-23 for my benefit, but I am hopeful - at the very least - future change will occur so postdocs do not have to continue to struggle with this financial suffocation.
Latinx postdoc
I consider myself as a poor person here. I did not have this feeling since my bachelor period.
non-Latinx postdoc
Financial struggles are a big problem for me.
Latinx postdoc
I’m always nervous about my finances.
non-Latinx postdoc
Postdoc salary is really far from the reality to cover the crazy house rent.
non-Latinx postdoc
Minimum salary of postdocs at Stanford is not enough to cover all our expenses. In my case even when I am single and not kids, it is complicated to save a good amount of money for the future.
Latinx postdoc
As a postdoc with a child, my postdoc salary alone is not enough to cover even basic living expenses.
non-Latinx postdoc
I get paid on the higher end of the spectrum for a postdoc through my fellowship and am still living paycheck to paycheck, frequently overdrafting and this is with my partner making just about the same that I do.
Latinx postdoc
it is not really possible to put anything aside for emergencies or the future, and the thought of that is kind of unsettling at times.
non-Latinx postdoc
Childcare costs are huge. I decided to not get pregnant during my PostDoc as I wouldn’t be able to sustain the costs.
non-Latinx postdoc
It is very demeaning and damaging mentally to be “poor” after all these sacrifices. Yes,, the salary is enough to get through the end of the month, but not to sleep sound. This is not a comfortable financial life.
non-Latinx postdoc
A Stanford postdoc may be setting me up for career success (although even that’s a crapshoot), but it is financially ruining me. It’s also hugely problematic that Stanford refuses to allow partners on the healthcare plan unless you have a legal certificate of marriage or domestic partnership. This is especially onerous for disabled partners who risk losing benefits if they marry.
non-Latinx postdoc
dual income should not be necessary to survive in this area.
Latinx postdoc
I don’t think postdocs should have to depend on a well-paid spouse or generous PI to live and work here.
non-Latinx postdoc
At the end of the month I sometimes do not put a single dollar on the bank. “Extra things”, like car repairing, health related expense or green card application are devastating. It’s good that videogames exist.
non-Latinx postdoc
even though my situation is stable it is not stable BECAUSE of my salary as a postdoc at Stanford.
non-Latinx postdoc
I have been eating three instant noodles per week as dinner because I need to save as much as possible to buy a car for my wife.
non-Latinx postdoc
It’s impossible to live normally in the Bay area without a car, which is unfordable.
non-Latinx postdoc
I think I am a very frugal person in general, but the costs of having a car, living alone in a tiny studio, and paying for student loans are enough to take up all my salary.
Latinx postdoc
Postdocs carry a large load of work. If we are adequately compensated, especially in light of inflation and high taxes in CA, it would take away all the anxiety which detracts from our ability work with some peace of mind.
non-Latinx postdoc

Technical notes

  • The survey was announced on July 25th with a deadline of September 12th. However the survey remained open until September 19th and the last answer was recorded on September 17th.

  • The survey was anonymous and open to all Stanford postdocs. The survey required respondents to provide their SUNet ID credentials to access it, but this information was not collected.

  • Survey respondents were limited to one answer without the possibility of editing their responses.

  • The survey was disseminated in the official channels of the Stanford Latinx Postdoc Association, i.e. email listserv, Twitter, Instagram, and Slack. The survey was also disseminated in the SURPAS general Slack workspace, and the SURPAS-announcements email listserv. QR-codes with links to survey were also distributed in the SLPA August lonche (August 17th), and the SLPA-SURPAS Hispanic Heritage Month coffee (September 9th).

  • The following 23 questions were asked in order:

##  [1] "Do you identify yourself as Latinx?"                                                                                                                                                                         
##  [2] "Where were you living before you arrived to Stanford?"                                                                                                                                                       
##  [3] "Your previous monthly salary, after taxes, was about (please transform to dollars) :"                                                                                                                        
##  [4] "Did your partner received a salary previous your arrival to Stanford?"                                                                                                                                       
##  [5] "Cost of your previous rent + utilities BEFORE Stanford"                                                                                                                                                      
##  [6] "How much was your first month of rent, deposit, etc, when you moved to CA to work at Stanford?"                                                                                                              
##  [7] "How much did you pay for your moving expenses, without housing? Include the price of plane tickets of you and your family members, cost of extra luggage, moving truck, gasoline, furniture, or other costs."
##  [8] "Did you ask for a loan to move for your postdoc at Stanford?"                                                                                                                                                
##  [9] "If the answer was Yes, did you ask..."                                                                                                                                                                       
## [10] "If there was an option to request financial assistance from Stanford for moving to the Bay Area, would you have used it?"                                                                                    
## [11] "When did you arrive to Stanford (year)?"                                                                                                                                                                     
## [12] "Do you own a car?"                                                                                                                                                                                           
## [13] "How much do you pay for transport in a month (include gasoline, auto insurance, parking, public transport, UBER)?"                                                                                           
## [14] "Number of your dependents"                                                                                                                                                                                   
## [15] "If you have a partner, does your partner receive a salary?"                                                                                                                                                  
## [16] "Your monthly rent + utilities is about"                                                                                                                                                                      
## [17] "How much do you currently spend on food per week?"                                                                                                                                                           
## [18] "Please list any other expenses you have. Include whether they are related to health, childcare, personal business, or anything else, and how much do you spend on them monthly."                             
## [19] "Where do you currently live?"                                                                                                                                                                                
## [20] "Do you feel that your postdoc salary is enough to cover your life expenses?"                                                                                                                                 
## [21] "Do you feel that your financials here at Stanford have affected negatively your wellbeing, progress, comfort, mental health, etc.?"                                                                          
## [22] "Are you setting any of your postdoc salary aside in a retirement savings account?"                                                                                                                           
## [23] "Please add any comments that you have about your financial situation or other topics that you feel are affecting the financial lives of postdocs."
  • Among closed questions response rate was high, with 100% response rate in 13 of the 21 closed questions. Only question 9 (81.6%), and question 13 (90.6%) had a response rate lower than 99%.

  • For the open questions we had 46.2% (question 18), and 44.3% (question 23) response rates.

  • For the closed questions, any group of responses with less than 5 respondents was grouped into a larger category. The following categories were grouped:

    1. For question 7, the two smaller categories (“less than $500”, “$500-$1000”) were aggregated into “less than $1,000”.
    2. For question 9, options “Stanford” and “Other” were aggregated into “Other”.
    3. For question 11, years from 2014 to 2016 were aggregated into a single category.
    4. For question 14. values of 3 or more were grouped into the “3 or more” category.
  • Additionally, for question 13 three respondents provided ranges (“+500”, “250-300”, and “less than 10”) instead of point estimates. These ranges were replaced by point values 500, 275 and 5.

  • To respect privacy, no email information was collected, timestamps were removed, and the results per question were reported to the analysis task force after independent randomization of the answer order for each question.

  • For cross-tabulations of multiple answers, answers to multiple (up to 3) questions were matched by respondent in a table with one question per column, and one respondent per row. Rows were then randomized independently for each cross-tabulation and those randomized-rows tables were provided to the analysis task force.

  • All randomizations were performed with atmospheric noise as provided by random.org.

  • The code used for de-identification is here.

  • For the analysis of question 18, the median of dependent healthcare didn’t include people who didn’t report a number or who reported a range.

  • For the wordclouds from responses to question 18, a number of pre-processing steps were taken. You can see the code that performed all these steps here, but briefly:

    1. Non-relevant words were filtered out.
    2. In some cases, one word was chosen to represent multiple words with the same meaning (e.g. ‘partner’, instead of ‘spouse’, ‘husband’, or ‘wife’)
    3. Stopwords of the English language were removed as defined in the nltk Python library.
    4. A step of lemmatization was performed “to reduce inflectional forms and sometimes derivationally related forms of a word to a common base form.”
  • For the quotes, 20 quotes were selected from responses to question 23. Quotes were chosen that are representative of the issues highlighted by respondents. The quotes do not necessarily include the full comments of the respondent, but each quote is from one of the 94 unique responses received. Only quotes that do not compromise anonymity were selected. All quotes were copied verbatim from survey respondents. Finally, quotes were selected blinded from the Latinx identity of the postdocs, and that information was added back later on the report. The order of the quotes is random as above.

  • As with every survey, there are limitations:

    1. The only ethnic/racial information we collect is self-identification with the Latinx label. The Latinx label is not universally accepted by all members of our community, and it is not directly comparable with the traditional “Hispanic/Latino” label.
    2. Intersectionality with other identity factors such as race, ethnicity, sex, gender, etc. could influence our measurements, but our survey did not attempt to measure those.
    3. The differences we measure between Latinx and non-Latinx postdocs might be replicated or magnified in other historically marginalized non-Latinx groups, for example, but not limited to Black, Native American, Indigenous, LGBTQ+ and first-generation college postdocs. Our survey did not attempt to measure the characteristics of those groups.
    4. Stanford University has around 2,400 postdocs. Thus, our survey sampled just under 9% of the total postdoc population. For non-Latinx postdocs, our survey recapitulates distributions measured by the SURPAS 2021/22 benefits survey on number of years at Stanford, proportion of postdocs with dependents, and proportion of postdocs living on campus. The differences we observed can be easily explained by known cost-of-living increases across the area over this year. Thus, we think our sample size is enough to capture the overall trends among the postdoc population.
    5. The true number of Stanford Latinx postdocs is unknown. The Stanford 2021 IDEAL survey reported that 5.6% of respondents self-identified as “Hispanic/Latino”. However this label is potentially broader than “Latinx”. Furthermore, the Stanford Latinx Postdoc Association actively distributed and encouraged its members to participate in the 2021 IDEAL survey. Thus, 5.6% could be an overestimate. As such, 55 responses (25.9% of this survey) captures at least 41% of the Latinx postdoc community and the results cannot be simply explained by respondent bias.
    6. Our survey captures a single snapshot in time, and it is a time where global, national, regional, and global trends in cost of living have dramatically increased. We cannot know if the differences we observe are specific to this moment.
    7. Our survey did not include any specific questions on healthcare, or childcare costs, as such we have limited quantitative data on these categories, but the open responses to question 18 make it clear that these are another major expense category.